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Grateful Dead Live at Gym, S.U.N.Y. on 1970-10-31

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Grateful Dead Live at Gym, S.U.N.Y. on 1970-10-31


Topics Live concert


Till The Morning Comes, Hard To Handle, Mama Tried, China Cat Sunflower, I Know You Rider, Dire Wolf, Cold Rain And Snow, Me And My Uncle, Dark Hollow, Brokedown Palace , Viola Lee Blues, Cumberland Blues, Uncle John's Band


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Gym, S.U.N.Y.
Location Stony Brook, NY

Source Soundboard - Early Show
Lineage SBD > Reel > DAT > D7 > Coresound > Prodif Plus > Samplitude 5.5 > CD Wave > SHN
Taped by
Transferred by Mike Fischer

Notes

-- two "shows" were advertised, at 8:00 and at 12:00, "featuring NRPS." This fileset is the Early Show electric Dead set.
--The last minute or so of Rider is clipped; this sounds like it's on the master.
--There is also a brief cut starting 2:13 into Brokedown.
--This is the final Viola Lee Blues and Jerry slips out the backdoor without a goodbye.

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Reviewer: ChinaCatRider21 - - March 15, 2017
Subject: Aspects to enjoy from SUNY Show
When I listen to this show I consistently skip over or don't even notice a few songs like Till the Morning Comes, Me and My Uncle, Uncle Johns, but a few bright spots catch my attention and I'll play them again (and again): Hard to Handle ( nice groove from 2:50 to 8:15), Dire Wolf, Viola Lee.
Reviewer: N Hoey - favoritefavorite - December 31, 2010
Subject: Definitely not notable
These Stonybrook tapes have been around almost since they happened. Any experienced listener to 1970 GD knows these are disappointments. They were plagued by technical problems and the band seemed aggravated. Lackluster sums it up. Were these of genuine greatness, the consensus would have developed long ago.
One thing Jerry mentioned in interviews was that consistency was woefully lacking in the early years. This is an example of not performing anywhere near potential.
Reviewer: grifftrain2000 - - December 30, 2010
Subject: 1970 -10- 31
Like Arck says, if your opinion is not the same as mine then you really have no business stating it. I dont like this show, so if you do there is something wrong with your musical tastes. Im Arck and what I say goes
Reviewer: Arck - favoritefavorite - November 2, 2010
Subject: Anyone who gives this show 5 stars...
...is either joking or doesn't know what they're talking about. Sure, you're free to have an opinion but 5 stars???? Unbelievable. You need to get out more. This show is at best average and at worst dull and dreary. 1970 has some of the finest moments the band ever had but for me, this show is right down in the bottom half of the shows of the year. Nothing is especially terrible but when you compare this with the Fillmore East shows just over a month earlier or the Capitol Theater shows a week later you can see how uninteresting this. It's totally unremarkable. The Viola Lee> Cumberland> Uncle John promises a lot but is a let down.

Please - give ratings that actually reflect the quality of the show in the context of other shows from the same time period.
Reviewer: mikeyank99 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 22, 2010
Subject: lackluster???????????????
lackluster r u people crazy or u still dropping acid great show here
Reviewer: skuzzlebutt - favoritefavoritefavorite - April 25, 2006
Subject: Not bad for a matinee
This show is a lot of fun, considering it was the early show and thereforse essentially a "warm up" for the evening gig. Nothing for the ages here, but overall it's solid, with decent sound and a couple of interesting entrees in the set list: one of only a few attempts at "Til the Morning comes" and the last ever "Viola Lee Blues". Although not a classic, I find myself reaching for this one occasionally when I want a taste of 1970 but don't have time to listen to a full-length show.
Reviewer: SNIPER777 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 8, 2005
Subject: 10-30/31-1970 ~ STONY BROOK, NY ./SHOWS
THANK~YOU, FOR ALL INVOLVED IN UPLOADING THESE
LEGENDARY SHOWS. THEY ARE NOT "LACKLUSTER" BY ANY MEANS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD MAKE ANYBODY SAY THIS, I GUESS THEY DIDN'T LISTEN TO THOSE HISSY OLD GRATEFUL DEAD TAPES FOR 20 YEARS.
DARK HOLLOW, BROKEDOWN PALACE,
VIOLA LEE BLUES ----> CUMBERLAND BLUES:
I GUESS YOUR NOT HAPPY W/ THE SONG SELECTION EITHER ???????
THANK'S AGAIN GUY'S
L.S. ~ PHILA
Reviewer: SNIPER777 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 8, 2005
Subject: 10-30/31-1970 ~ STONY BROOK, NY ./SHOWS
THANK~YOU, FOR ALL INVOLVED IN UPLOADING THESE
LEGENDARY SHOWS. THEY ARE NOT "LACKLUSTER" BY ANY MEANS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD MAKE ANYBODY SAY THIS, I GUESS THEY DIDN'T LISTEN TO THOSE HISSY OLD GRATEFUL DEAD TAPES FOR 20 YEARS.
DARK HOLLOW, BROKEDOWN PALACE,
VIOLA LEE BLUES ----> CUMBERLAND BLUES:
I GUESS YOUR NOT HAPPY W/ THE SONG SELECTION EITHER ???????
THANK'S AGAIN GUY'S
L.S. ~ PHILA
Reviewer: J Chazen - favoritefavorite - November 2, 2005
Subject: correct..lackluster
Not a hot 70 show....
Reviewer: jackospax - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 20, 2005
Subject: Hot as it gets
I have to assume the previous reviewer only listened to the first track. "Till The Morning Comes" was only played five times despite appearing on American Beauty. For some reason the band never got into this song...which is a shame, I think its a really good one! But in this case it's very weak, lots of off key chords and such. "Lackluster". BUT the REST of the show is absolutely smokin'. Download it!
Reviewer: SuGarDaDDy - favorite - August 17, 2005
Subject: Call a Spade a Spade
bout' as lack luster as it gets. Sound quality is the only thing gettin a star here.
Reviewer: canonico - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 12, 2005
Subject: long ago and far away
I lived 2 miles from Stony Brook University and graduated HS in '69. Tom R., a good friend in my time at Adelphi U, said I HAD to get into the Dead. We ended up seeing them every time they came to the NY area until I moved to Oregon in Jan of '71.
The halloween show at Stony Brook was great because not only did they play really well, but all my HS and college friends were there, it was a wonderful atmosphere and it was my birthday.
Reviewer: elvikingo - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 23, 2005
Subject: ¬°oh mah god!
I haven't heard this show for years. It was one of the first tapes I was given. I wore it out from listening to it so much. I love this set. The Viola Lee>Cumberland is on fire. I'm falling out of my chair listening to it right now. The boys just smoke. Worth it just for that jam. Great Uncle John's as well.
Reviewer: southernflavour - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 1, 2004
Subject: a real treat
good sound, great show. unique flavor
Reviewer: DeadDave - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 19, 2004
Subject: Trick or treat!!!
Friggin' AWESOME show for tight little tunes

This is the early show with the last Viola Lee Blues (retired)

As you can see the setlist shown is the LATE show. But is incorrect because this IS the early show.
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